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I’m often disappointed when I encounter math “puzzles” in Professor Layton. If I wanted to solve those I’d just pick up a text book.

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agentamy562 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
OMG I KNOW THE ANSWER!! Dilapidated means its in ruins. So i say the answer is 0. XD
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TantricToza Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I find a lot of the "puzzles" in the new one are there just to waste time and make the game seem longer. -___-;  I miss the riddles and challenges from the first few games.  

And with that being said, I will most likely continue to buy any game the throw at my face. because reasons.  
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robochipv8 Featured By Owner Edited Sep 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
4 feet

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LucidCloud Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I save my hint coins for the math problems. I mean math "puzzles" lol.
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Silver-Glazed-Donut Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heh I still have my "Proffesor Layton and the Curious Village"! Man, that abandoned carnival is creepy, though. :saddummy:
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Me0me0meWTFTMN Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014
4ft above the ground?
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JessicaKingstone Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I remember one like that (or it may have been this exact puzzle - my brain kinda took one look at it and went "blah...blah blah blah blah...." as it usually does with maths) and I ended up just Googling the answer because I'm about 3 Professor Layton's behind the rest of the world XD
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TobiObito4ever Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is EXACTLY how I feel when I encounter math problems in those games. And since math is my worst subject, I have to rely on my Dad or my brother to help out. ^^;
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Gosky3 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I learned how to do that! I forgot, though. I have to forget previous classes from my brain to make room for more. There is only so much room to go around. :P
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UntoldPromises Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
LOOOL YES!  XD
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Sapphire911 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014
Ok reading that I totally heard their voices lol.
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DarkThiefAya Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Hobbyist
Uhhhhh
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Star-Gamer Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I'm awful at the block sliding puzzles. THEY TAKE ME FOREVER!! The maths ones take me quite some time but I eventually get there in the end.
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Shadoe-Adopts Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
What angle is it at?
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:iconanimalmother-getsome:
Isn't that cross multiplication?
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Shadoe-Adopts Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, chances are that it includes it, but there are many more undefined variables in the problem, like the positioning of the light (seems about twice as close to one post than the other, but who can be sure) which would give us WHERE it is hanging, but as for height....... My math teacher is below average, she could't compute it. Meh, what do expect from an 8th grade teacher?
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:iconanimalmother-getsome:
Gotcha

But yikes, i'm a high-school senior and i don't know this stuff!!
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Shadoe-Adopts Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, our education system is lacking. -.- In my district we just switched to Singapore Math, in which problems like these are for 6th graders. What sucks is that it's too late for me, I graduate from middle school this year.
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jmjack156 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014
they give you the information to find two angles and they pretty much tell you one side of the triangle. you should be able to find the other two sides through cos and sin. after you find the other two sides you cut the triangle from the lightbulb down to the middle of the bottom side(floor) then its just A squared plus B squared equals C squared. where im from this is tenth grade math
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jmjack156 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014
scratch that i made assumptions on this
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:iconanimalmother-getsome:
Well don't drop out, cause if you do, you are totally screwed. In this time, there's practically no job for a drop out. My schools drop out rate is friggen 25%, which is insanely high, but not surprising as it is a inner city school (I live in NYC btw).
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Shadoe-Adopts Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I won't, I'm not even sure if they would let me. I'm the valedectorian (spelling doesn't count in comments) of the school, and where I live, studies have shown that 95% of the kids are unfit for school, and not suprisingly, there is a really high drop out rate, however, the last 5% consists of people invaluable to the states, so if I dropped out it would be a bad blow. Anyway, I'm not going to let a single rogue problem kill my future, (I want to be a biotechnologist who writes and plays violin in her free time) since my plans have nothing to do with this problem, a detective sounds like a bad path anyway.
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:iconanimalmother-getsome:
Your parents want you to be a detective? 
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Connan-Bell Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2013   Traditional Artist
Word Problems!? But I graduated from junior high already! 
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FatefullyKinetic Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I have always loathed word problems in math.  my brain can't put it together no matter how many times you show me.
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hikarushirou Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2013
This is exactly the reason I can't even play the game to begin with. The puzzles are just too much for me... ._.;
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cddmanful Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, Professor Layton is sorta s'posed to be educational, I think...Of course if someone else does the work~~~
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RogueRikku Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013
Lmao. I would so do that.
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AshesAndEmbers Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You can find the solution simply by calculating for the two right triangles on either end of the 15 foot gap. Since 2 and 3 add up to 5, we know that the combined line of the gap and the shadows is exactly 5 feet. To simplify the problem, we can imagine moving the light along a horizontal axis until it's directly above one post, giving us just one right triangle on the other end with a height of 1 (post height) and a base of 5 (shadow length). We don't even need to find the hypotenuse at this point, because we only need the height of the similar triangle with a base of 20 feet! :D Therefore, since 20 / 5 = 4, and 1 * 4 = 4, we know that the lamp is hanging exactly four feet above the floor! :)
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AsjJohnson Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

woooow. I hadn't thought about moving the light at all. That's a neat idea. ^_^

But... when I tried calculating it that way, I ended up with 6 and 2/3 feet. :/ I think it's because I used the 3 foot shadow as the base of the similar triangle. How do you know to add up the shadows? And if you add them, why don't you add up the post heights?

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AshesAndEmbers Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, you add up the shadows by simply adding the total lengths. So the shadow length of one post is 3 ft, and the length of the other shadow is 2 ft. So our added shadow is 5 ft long when we hover the light over one post. This means that with the light at the same height of 4 feet, the shadow of one post is 5 feet long, and the shadow of the other one is invisible. We don't add up the post heights because it's still two shadows. We just can't see the one from the pole right below the light, because it blocks its own shadow. Since You got 6 and 2/3, that means you moved the light above one pole, but still had the other pole casting a 3 foot shadow. You have to account for the fact that you're lengthening one shadow as much as you are shortening the other. Since you're reducing one from 2 ft to 0 ft, the other one has to extend from 3 ft to 5 ft. After we do this we have two similar triangles. One has a base of 5 and a height of 1, and the other has a base of 20. Because they're similar, we can calculate the height of the larger triangle by doing this: 20/5 = h/4 where h is the height of the triangle. We can just reduce 20/5 to find that it equals 4/1, so we can determine that the height is 4. This height is also equal to the height of the lamp, so we know that the lamp is 4 feet off the ground.

Cave Johnson, we're done here.
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the-smell Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
Seriously I thought the answer was going to be that GaMERCaT went on the internet and just looked for a guide, like I tend to do when I get stuck in those kinds of puzzles.
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:iconcelesse:
celesse Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
But that wouldn't be a very funny punchline.
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:iconthe-smell:
the-smell Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013
Unfortunately this is true.  The actual strip is much better.
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CrazyAyaMiyo Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013
It's very cool! I like the GamerCat!
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SaraSapphire89 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess I was the only one here able to figure those out? Oh well, I love GaMERCaT either way
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iiibrokeyhu Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm certainly not doing that math puzzle
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Puppkid Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
I HATED THAT PUZZLE

Seriously though, I think I groaned out loud every time it was a math problem. I know that's a type of puzzle, but it's definitely one kind I can do without! (That and those annoying slider puzzles.)
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aldrea03 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
(>.<) LMAO!!!! the comic is awesome, what makes it epic is that most of the comments are people trying to figure out the puzzle.
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AsjJohnson Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

I came up with the light being about 5.7 feet above the floor. Though I may be wrong. I had to look up some Trig functions. ^_^" It's been too long since I had used them regularly.

 

...I like math puzzles.

But, I don't think I like them much in games.

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DovSherman Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The puzzle is unsolvable because there is not enough information. If the light is located directly on the line between the two posts, the answer would be 4 feet. However, if the light located off to the side, we would need to know how far from the line the light is located in order to get an answer.
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PainfulElegy Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
also don't forget that since it never states the shadows are parallel, there's no reason to assume that the posts and light have to create a straight line when viewed from above, rather than a triangle of sorts.
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DovSherman Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
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aldrea03 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
bravo. . .i think you just won the game!!! *gives you the "I Outsmarted Layton" award*
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PainfulElegy Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
IIRC professor layton has a lot of puzzles like this, where they try to use an image to eliminate some of the vagueness.
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AshesAndEmbers Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You're right. They could have at least told us that the light's position. They also don't tell us that the light is in between the posts either! If it was on the same plane, the answer could be either 16 OR 4, even with the SIMPLEST of calculations!
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PainfulElegy Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yeh, this is one that would have needed a diagram that wasn't to scale.
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AshesAndEmbers Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
definitely. if they specify anything more, even the distance between the light and one post, then it would be possible.
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PainfulElegy Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
well, that might not be the case, if one of the answers where they aren't parallel falls into that ring of points. Easiest (and probably the one they want) solution is to say the bulb is between the posts.
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Light-Dusk Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
10 ft high!
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